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At This Palestinian University, Students Are Losing Hope In A 2-State Solution

Feb 17, 2017

Growing up in the West Bank, Amjad Hasan has watched his leaders trying to negotiate a so-called two-state solution, or a Palestinian state alongside Israel.

"The talks seemed to go on and on," says the 22-year-old electrical engineering student, who studies at Birzeit University outside the Palestinian city of Ramallah. "And nothing happened."

The death knell, Hasan says, came after President Donald Trump hosted Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Washington this week.

Hasan watched their news conference online. He heard Trump talk about the violence Israel faces from Palestinians and say, "so I'm looking at two-state and one-state, and I like the one that both parties like."

Which, to Hasan, means the one that Israel likes.

"He talked about Israel like it's a victim," he says. "He didn't seem to care about Palestinians. He doesn't seem to know anything about the reality of the conflict here. He only sees what Israel wants him to see."

I meet Hasan on a rainy afternoon at Birzeit's campus. There are women in jeans and headscarves hugging armfuls of books, and men in windbreakers showing each other videos on their smartphones.

Two 19-year-old finance students, Mohamed Abed and Basel Nader, have just finished a class.

Abed says Trump doesn't see that the expansion of Jewish settlements in the West Bank are hurting Palestinians.

"The settlements are getting closer to our houses," he says. "And they have to search for a solution for that."

I ask the young men if they recognize Israel as a country.

No, they both say, shaking their heads.

"It's not even their home," Nader says, frowning.

This is exactly what many Israelis fear. They don't want to grant statehood to a people who don't recognize Israel's right to exist.

Abed and Nader say they would would accept Israel if it would give Palestinians rights in a two-state deal.

Now they think they might have to fight for that.

"We tried everything, we tried negotiating," Abed says. "I think we can get our rights in that way."

"The hard way," Nader says.

Violence will lead nowhere, says Ghassan Khatib, a political science professor at Birzeit and a former spokesman for the Palestinian Authority. He supports a two-state deal.

"I think it's the only way for settling this conflict," he says. "Because all other options are continuity of the conflict ... continuity of the potential for future wars."

He says he worries about another war breaking out in Gaza, where the Islamist party Hamas governs.

"The happiest [people] in the world to hear what we heard at the [Trump-Netanyahu] press conference were Hamas," he says. "Because they have always been saying that this peaceful two-state solution is not going to work."

In Gaza, 16-year-old Tamer Shoblaq says it's clear negotiations have failed. "One state, not two states," he says. "One Palestinian state."

Israeli Education Minister Naftali Bennett, of the right-wing, pro-settler Jewish Home party, said the meeting brought Israel closer to annexing the West Bank, where the Palestinians want to establish a future state.

Israel captured the West Bank in 1967. The U.N. considers settlements there illegal.

"The Palestinian flag has been replaced today with an Israeli flag," he told Army Radio. "After four years of heading toward a Palestinian state, which has brought so much misery and deaths in the intifada [Palestinian uprising], and severe damage to our international position, I think this is definitely a new era."

Israeli commentator Akiva Eldar says those Israelis in favor of annexing the West Bank are not envisioning equality for Palestinians.

"They're offering Palestinians a kind of apartheid South African human rights, not an equal vote," he says. "They don't envision a Palestinian prime minister. If you're a Zionist, you believe in a Jewish state. People who believe in a two-state solution believe that Israel has to be either Jewish or democratic."

Settlers make up only a fraction of Israelis.

About 55 percent of Israelis support two states, according to a poll by the Tami Steinmetz Center for Peace Research, Tel Aviv University and the Palestinian Center for Policy and Funding Research in Ramallah.

But there is a "slow and incremental overall decline in support for the two-state solution in the past few years," says Dahlia Scheindlin, a Tel Aviv-based pollster who worked on the survey. "You do see how over time the lack of any sort of prospect is really eroding that sense of viability."

The poll also surveyed Palestinians. About 44 percent of Palestinians still support a two-state deal.

One is 20-year-old Khadeja Ghawamneh. She wants Israel and a future Palestine to exist side by side.

I meet her in Birzeit University's busy cafeteria. She stands near a poster of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat.

"I don't see any option but to have confidence in our leaders," she says. "We've started this journey to our own state. Let's finish it."

Abu Bakr Bashir contributed reporting from Gaza.

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This week, when President Donald Trump hosted the Prime Minister of Israel, he said there could be ways to end the Israeli-Palestinian conflict other than the two-state solution, a Palestinian state alongside Israel. Those comments worried many young Palestinians who fear they will not see an independent homeland. NPR's Joanne Kakissis reports from the West Bank.

JOANNA KAKISSIS, BYLINE: The campus of Birzeit University sits on a hill just outside the Palestinian city of Ramallah. There are women in headscarves and blue jeans and men showing each other videos on their smartphones. I meet electrical engineering student Amjad Hasan. He says he saw President Trump's press conference with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu online. He's upset with Trump.

AMJAD HASAN: He talk about Israel like it's a victim. He didn't seem to care about Palestinians.

KAKISSIS: Hassan's 22, and he says Trump just confirms what he's always suspected about American leaders.

HASAN: He doesn't seems to know anything about the reality of the conflict here. He only sees what Israel wants him to see.

KAKISSIS: Mohamed Abed, a 19-year-old finance student, says Trump does not see that Jewish settlements in the West Bank are hurting Palestinians.

MOHAMED ABED: We can't say, like, the settlements are, like, getting closer to our houses. And they have to search for a solution for that. Problems are getting, like, bigger over here.

KAKISSIS: I ask Abed and his friend Basel Nader, an accounting student, if they recognize Israel as a country.

ABED: No.

BASEL NADER: Of course no. It's even not their home.

KAKISSIS: This is exactly what many Israelis fear. They do not want to grant statehood to a people who don't recognize Israel's right to exist. These students say they would accept Israel if it would give Palestinians rights in a two-state deal. Now they think they might have to fight for that.

ABED: We tried everything. We tried negotiating. I think we can't take our rights in that way.

NADER: The hard way.

KAKISSIS: But violence will lead nowhere, says Ghassan Khatib. He's a political science professor at Birzeit and a former spokesman for the Palestinian Authority. He supports a two-state deal.

GHASSAN KHATIB: It's still the only way for settling this conflict.

KAKISSIS: He worries about a war in Gaza where the militant group Hamas is at the helm.

KHATIB: I think the happiest in the world to hear what we heard in this press conference were Hamas because they have been always saying that this peaceful two-states approach is not going to work.

KAKISSIS: Some Palestinians see Israeli Education Minister Naftali Bennett as the winner after Trump's lack of enthusiasm in negotiations. Bennett leads the pro-settler Jewish Home Party. He told Israel's army radio that Trump signified a new era.

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NAFTALI BENNETT: (Speaking Hebrew).

KAKISSIS: He said, quote, "the Palestinian flag has been replaced by an Israeli flag." Settlers, however, are only a fraction of Israelis. A poll conducted by an Israeli university and a Palestinian Research Center showed a slight majority of Israelis still support a two-state deal.

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KAKISSIS: About 44 percent of Palestinians do as well, including 20-year-old Khadeja Ghawamneh, whom I meet in Birzeit University's cafeteria. She stands near a poster of Yasser Arafat.

KHADEJA GHAWAMNEH: (Speaking Arabic).

KAKISSIS: "I do not see any options," she says. "We've started this journey to our own state. Let's finish it." Joanna Kakissis, NPR News, The West Bank. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.